Published on February 22, 2004 By grayhaze In WinCustomize Talk
Much of this message board is becoming redundant. Almost a month ago I posted a thread about skin requests and their various evils in an attempt to cull a lot of the repetition and cloggin up of the board with almost identical threads. It seemed to work to some extent, although we still get the requests for Barbie and Chevvy Chase skins on almost a daily basis.

Now it's time to deal with a second pet hate I have on these boards - the multitude of people complaining about their wallpapers being rejected. I understand that each of these individuals take a great deal of pride in their 'work', and the lack of a reason for its rejection stings somewhat, but do we really need an individual thread for each and every wallpaper rejected?

Here are some things to remember.

1. Why has my wallpaper been rejected, and yet I haven't been given a reason for this cruel and unusual punishment?

When we first had the wallpaper section here at WinCustomize, each wallpaper was treated with the utmost respect, and those which didn't make the grade were rejected through the use of a personal e-mail detailing the reasons and some suggestions for improvements.

This approach worked for all of about 20 minutes. Within moments, the moderators responsible for rejecting wallpapers started to receive angry, and in many cases obscenely abusive, replies to their comments from the wallpaper creators. Not everyone responded in this way, but enough did to warrant taking another look at the procedures.

Now remember that these moderators are volunteers, and that they get nothing out of doing this job aside from the pleasure of maintaining one of the best collections of desktop customizations on the Internet. It was therefore decided that they didn't deserve to get this kind of abuse from disgruntled wallpaper artists on a daily basis. The e-mailing process was stopped, and wallpapers were simply accepted or rejected without comment.

This was perhaps unfortunate for those artists who found the criticism to be genuinely helpful, but this lack of feedback was deemed to be more acceptable than the constant harassment of the moderators by those less willing to have their egos bruised.

To get an idea of the severity of responses received by moderators during that dark period, they included such gems as personal insults, racism, and in some cases death threats. I think you'll therefore understand why we have the system we do now.

2. Starting threads to get a second opinion from the general public.

A large percentage of the threads started on the board are by artists who have had their work rejected and want other users to back them up in their fight for justice. Don't do it.

If your work has been rejected, you're not doing yourself any favours by trying to bypass the moderators. You're only giving yourself a bad name and drawing attention to yourself. This could impact negatively on your future submissions.

Posting your rejected wallpapers in a public forum opens you up to exactly the kind of criticism you probably won't want to hear. You're likely to receive some very harsh critiques, and end up feeling a lot worse about yourself and your work than you did when it was simply rejected.

While it's true that you may get one or two positive comments, what you are effectively doing is parading a known sub-standard piece of work in front of the harshest bunch of critics known to man - the public. You're unlikely to get any genuinely helpful advice, especially if your thread is the 100th one of the week complaining about the unfairness of the moderation process.

If you honestly believe that your work was of a high enough standard to get accepted, then e-mail a site admin and get them to take another look at it. Don't just re-submit it, or try to generate support in the public forums.

3. Uploading a rejected wallpaper as a desktop screenshot.

If your wallpaper doesn't get through, it's often tempting to simply upload it to the screenshots section. This section has less moderation than the wallpapers one, and is used to show off your current desktop customizations to other users.

While it's fine to upload a screenshot with your wallpaper as a background, the screenshot cannot be useable as a wallpaper itself. You must obscure the image with windows, icons and other items so that you're not just using the section as another distribution outlet for your work.

If you are found to be doing this knowingly, a very dim view will be taken by the site admins. You may have certain priviledges revoked, and your experience of the site will be heavily limited.

4. Helpful information.

If you need more advice about wallpaper submissions, it's a good idea to take a look at the site's submission guidelines. These can be read here: https://www.wincustomize.com/guidelines.asp

If you feel you have a strong enough case for your wallpaper being re-evaluated, contact one of the admins by e-mail. Some useful e-mail addresses can be found here: https://www.wincustomize.com/index.asp?Cmd=about#rule

Above all, remember that to succeed in this 'business', you need to be your own harshest critic. Before submitting your work, take a long hard look at it and try to decide whether it will be something that other users of the site will want to have on their desktop.

Take a look around the wallpaper section and try to get an idea of the sorts of things people like. Look at ratings and download counts for wallpapers of a similar genre to yours, and decide whether you should upload your wallpaper or simply keep it for yourself and work harder on your next effort.
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on Feb 22, 2004
They won't read this you know, But I hope it registers with some people




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on Feb 22, 2004
Well one would hope that someone who has the time to create a wallpaper and upload it will have the time to read a few paragraphs before they start their sulk routine.
on Feb 22, 2004
Well done, grayhaze.



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on Feb 22, 2004
Thanks... I wish this had been up before I made an ass out of myself a couple of months ago.

My apologies.

on Feb 22, 2004
Well said. I agree that it is too bad that most people will completely bypass this, but there will be a few who won't. And who knows, maybe those few will be the first to point this thread out!!! We can only hope.
on Feb 22, 2004
Thankx for this post Grayhaze. This topic has really gotten 'old' and so very frequent. Hopefully people will read this before they start a thread asking 'Why was my wallpaper rejected?'
on Feb 22, 2004
I don't mind when my work is rejected, just gives me inspiration to make something better. I just don't like the waiting period for things to be approved.
on Feb 22, 2004
This thread should be mandatory reading for all wallpaper posters. Well done!
on Feb 22, 2004
Thank you hopefully people will pay attention to your post, and save themselves and us some grief



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on Feb 23, 2004

Kevin: Thanks for taking the time to make this thread, it is really very good and contains everything I would have said as a moderator. I hope people will read this before starting the kind of thread you mention above.

We can only hope!

Thanks again.......Good Thread!!

on Feb 23, 2004
Hmm, problem is still that one can't see stickies with SDC (at least me with latest version)... And I still say a 'real' forum like phpbb or invisionboard with a clear structure would cut redundant threads at least half. Never understood why SD tried to re-invent the wheel with this forum...



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on Feb 23, 2004
c242... Put your cursor over the "WC-General" tab, Right click,-select "reset list" and all the stickies will appear back at the top of the page.
That should fix that little problem.

Very good additonal thread to the stickies grayhaze, lets just hope the folks read before posting another one of those "woe is me" threads




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on Feb 23, 2004
c242... Put your cursor over the "WC-General" tab, Right click,-select "reset list" and all the stickies will appear back at the top of the page.
That should fix that little problem.

Until someone adds a comment to the thread, at which point it is no longer Sticky in SDC, until you reset list again.........





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on Feb 24, 2004
Well I just uploaded my first wallpaper today, and if it gets rejected, now I won't freak out. Thanks. )
on Feb 24, 2004
Hmm... I've submitted two TerraGen-made wallpapers before, both somewhat crap. I submitted four a lot better ones (no jagged edges, wide variety of scenes (desert, sunset, valley), et cetera), but all of those got rejected.

I just do not understand.

Might mean that I leave the site for ever...
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