Xerraire: Try http://www.ucmp.berkeley.edu/history/evolution.html and http://www.talkorigins.org/origins/faqs-evolution.html . And more information can be found at http://directory.google.com/Top/Science/Biology/Evolution .

Thanks MadIce

I am all very art, languages, and music oriented in my studies, so I can't say I am very science/math minded.
Thanks for the links.

Just a curious question...Is there any mention of Dinosaurs in the Bible? And if so...did they walk the land at the same time as man?

Xerraire: This http://www.hobrad.com/etcont.htm is fun to read. "The Evolutionary Tales" is written in the style of Chaucer's "The Canterbury Tales". It gives insight about some of the issues discussed in this thread.

I don't believe the word dinosaur appears in the Bible. However in the book of Job 40 it makes mention of "behemoth"
and it certainly describes a mighty creature:

"15 Behold now behemoth, which I made with thee; he eateth grass as an ox. 16 Lo now, his strength is in his loins, and his force is in the navel of his belly. 17 He moveth his tail like a cedar: the sinews of his stones are wrapped together. 18 His bones are as strong pieces of brass; his bones are like bars of iron. 19 He is the chief of the ways of God: he that made him can make his sword to approach unto him. 20 Surely the mountains bring him forth food, where all the beasts of the field play. 21 He lieth under the shady trees, in the covert of the reed, and fens. 22 The shady trees cover him with their shadow; the willows of the brook compass him about. 23 Behold, he drinketh up a river, and hasteth not"

yes there is a mention of "the great beasts" there is also a mention of God creating other worlds... but I have to do alot of research to back myself up!

Wow this is a very interesting thread to read. But let me throw my take into this. I myself believe int he evolutioninary theory. Just like people belive in God it is a belief, it just happens though i belive in the Evolutionary theroy becasue it has substancial evidence, now i used the word evidence for a reason, it isnt proof. Creationism (spelling), or the theories that go around the idea of a higher power "creating" everything. I myself dont belive in any of that, becasue where is the proof? i like proof, maybe its just me .

Faih is a comfort a padding to explain the unexplained, or to easily explain the complexity of the world. Some people like that and dont wish to think about such things, but me... i choose to believe in what i see and the logical explinations and exploritions of phenonimoun, and natural occurences.

http://www.christiananswers.net/dinosaurs/dino-behemoth.jpg
Dinosaur-like creatures are mentioned in the Bible. The Bible uses ancient names like "behemoth" (beh-HEE-moth) and "tannin." Behemoth means kingly, gigantic beasts. Tannin is a term which includes dragon-like animals and the great sea creatures such as whales, giant squids, and marine reptiles like the plesiosaurs (PLEE-see-oh-sors) that may have become extinct (died out).
The Bible's best description of a dinosaur-like animal is in Job chapter 40...


"Look at the behemoth, which I made along with you and which feed on grass like an ox. What strength he has in his loins, what power in the muscles of his belly! His tail sways like a cedar; the sinews of his thighs are close-knit. His bones are tubes of bronze, his limbs like rods of iron. He ranks first among the works of God..."
-Job 40:15-19 (NIV)

The book of Job is very old, written after the worldwide flood of Noah's time and probably about 2,000 years before Jesus was born. Here God describes a great king of the land animals like some of the biggest dinosaurs, the Diplodocus and Apatosaurus. It was a gigantic plant-eater with great muscles and very strong bones. The long Diplodocus had leg bones so strong that he could have held three others on his back.
The behemoth were not afraid. They did not need to be; they were huge. Behemoth tails were so long and strong that God compared them to cedars--one of the largest and most spectacular trees of the ancient world.

After all the behemoth had died out, many people forgot about them. Dinosaurs were extinct and the fossil skeletons that are in museums today did not begin to be put together until about 150 years ago. Today, some people have mistakenly guessed that the behemoth mentioned in the Bible might be an elephant or a hippopotamus. But those animals do not have tails like the thick, tall trunks of cedar trees!

I myself dont belive in any of that, becasue where is the proof? i like proof, maybe its just me .

the proof is your own faith in God and that he wrote the Bible through men.

Faith is all i need to believe in creation!

desides if everyone here has read revelations, half of all that has come true. We are in the last days to woe to thoses who do not believe!

Xerraier, I'll try to put it as simply as possible. There were two main "evolution" theories at some point. First there was Lamarck and then Darwin's theory followed.  Lamarck believe that species evolved and adapted to their environment. In other words if an animal had no fur and lived in a cold area, that animal species would eventually grow fur to adapt. That theory is a little hard to believe and it's hard to imagine "willing" some mutation to happen.  Then Darwin proposed that mutation were accidents and that such accidents had sometimes fortunate outcomes. In other words, lets take the animal species as above, with no fur. They lived in a warm region so they were doing fine.  But sometimes, genetic accidents happen: some babies are born with more hair, some with less hair.  Being a genetic trait, the animal with more hair transmits this trait to its kids. And if the kids coupled with another hairy individual, their kids eventually get more and more hair, etc.  Those weird defects are at a big disadvantage in the warm climate they live in, and they probably don't have a long life expentancy. But then the climate of the region changes and the region becomes much colder. All of the sudden, it becomes an advantage to have hair to protect you from the cold. As it gets colder, the hairless animals die and the hairy ones survive. That's basically Darwin's theory: the survival of the fittest.

The above is just a very small scale example of evolution. But it is believed to be the whole history of evolution since the beginning of life on earth.  Species mutate. Sometimes the mutations are bad and the mutated animals dies. Sometimes the mutations are fortunate and the mutated animal survive while their ancestors die. That's what evolution refers to.

As mentionned before, it has been proven that it happens. As mutations happen through many many generations, it's impossible to observe on animal with longer life spans. But with life forms that have a short life span, we can easily observe tens or even hundred of generations in a relative short time. That's how we know that flies and mosquitoes mutate and survive. That truth is also what gives doctors and phamaceutical companies the most problems, as virii and bacterias also mutate. Through mutations, new species of virii and bacterias survive as being anafected by antibiotics and other medications. Evolution is a fact. It cannot be proven because unless we invent a time machine to go witness it in person, we'll never know for sure. But it's relatively easy to put two and two together. If lower life forms mutate and evolve, wouldn't that be the explanation why there are so many different species of the same animals? Wouldn't it explain why Cro-Magon died while Neanderthal survived for a while, then dies in turn while Sapiens surived?

Anyway that's basically what evolution is about. Hope this helped you.

What about the other half that hasn't come true? Are we still waiting for them to come true since there is never a specific date when if at all anything mentioned will happen.

The reason why I asked is ...at work i overheard some people talking about Human and Dinosaur bones found together. I don't know where because i walked in on the tail end of the conversation

What about the other half that hasn't come true? Are we still waiting for them to come true since there is never a specific date when if at all anything mentioned will happen.

I hope the rest dosen't come true in my lifetime. I have faith it will come true but for us Christians, the end times are a time of great persucution. Although I would like to be around to see the second coming...

I subscribe to a quarterly magazine called Biblical Archeology Review (BAR) http://www.bib-arch.org/bswb_BAR/indexBAR.html

This magazine features stories about archeological digs (mostly in the middle east) that in some way or another prove the Bible as a historical document. It is amazing just how much of the Bible is historically acurate.

Lots of good reading for those interested.

desides if everyone here has read revelations, half of all that has come true. We are in the last days to woe to thoses who do not believe!

  First off, would you please stop typing desides, when you mean besides ? Secondly. if you're so familiar with the Bible, why is it you don't know, it's the book of "The Revelation", not Revelations?